Aaah, the fruit of democracy blossoms from the Arab Spring. And a decade of tearing down tyranny? Yes we went to war for oil and we deserve that oil. We can keep blowing up terrorists and more terrorists will come. Our murky military mission to " free " the middle-east is a mirage. They will never be our allays no matter how much we do for them. There is no political solution, there can never be freedom and prosperity for them if they found their constitution on Islamic principles.
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bater Ginsberg expressed her opinion recently on Egyptian TV.
"I would not look to the U.S. Constitution, if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012,"
Ginsburg said in an interview on Al Hayat television last Wednesday. "I might look at the constitution of
South Africa. That was a deliberate attempt to have a fundamental instrument of government that embraced basic human rights, have an independent judiciary. It really is, I think, a great piece of work that was done."
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/06/ginsburg-to-egyptians-wouldnt-use-us-constitution-as-model/#ixzz1licIrzujThat comment angered me at first because Ms Ginsberg was equating our U.S. Constitution to that of other countries. Of course our constitution is unique and could not co-exist with an Islamic worldview so she may be right about developing constitutional rights built on a humanistic platform. Here is the South African preamble.
We, the people of South Africa,
Recognize the injustices of our past;
Honor those who suffered for justice and freedom in our land;
Respect those who have worked to build and develop our country; and
Believe that South Africa belongs to all who live in it, united in our diversity.
We therefore, through our freely elected representatives, adopt this Constitution as the supreme law of the Republic so as to
- Heal the divisions of the past and establish a society based on democratic values, social justice and fundamental human rights;
- Lay the foundations for a democratic and open society in which government is based on the will of the people and every citizen is equally protected by law;
- Improve the quality of life of all citizens and free the potential of each person; and
- Build a united and democratic South Africa able to take its rightful place as a sovereign state in the family of nations.
May God protect our people.
Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika. Morena boloka setjhaba sa heso.
God seën Suid-Afrika. God bless South Africa.
Mudzimu fhatutshedza Afurika. Hosi katekisa Afrika.
So there you have it. We build our constitution on our best conscientious so now we ask God to bless it! Beautiful! We will build our Utopia and every one will be happy because we will fulfill all their needs! God must be at awe at what the framers of the South African Constitution have come up with!
The problem is what do they recognize as fundamental human rights? Perusing the "rights" section in the South African Constitution is mind-boggling, they have every single "right" you can think of and some you couldn't! If there were ever a constitution on earth where everyone can fit in this is it! Unless you happen to be an unwanted unborn child you are out of luck because there is a right of "reproduction" in other words "no womb for you".
Everything in this constitution is spelled out precisely unfortunately the arbiter of these rights has the view of the collective whole when disseminating the provisions. So the individual has to fit precisely into the plan.
Would the Egyptian leaders, those who have taken authority, adopt such a constitution? I don't think so. How about the Iraqis? What is there constitution based on? http://www.uniraq.org/documents/iraqi_constitution.pdf Check it out.
Here are the first two articles.
Article 1:
The Republic of Iraq is a single federal, independent and fully sovereign state in which
the system of government is republican, representative, parliamentary, and democratic,
and this Constitution is a guarantor of the unity of Iraq.
Article 2:
First: Islam is the official religion of the State and is a foundation source of
legislation:
A. No law may be enacted that contradicts the established provisions of Islam
B. No law may be enacted that contradicts the principles of democracy.
C. No law may be enacted that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms
stipulated in this Constitution.
Second: This Constitution guarantees the Islamic identity of the majority of the
Iraqi people and guarantees the full religious rights to freedom of religious belief
and practice of all individuals such as Christians, Yazidis, and Mandean Sabeans.
Do you feel it? The FREEDOM do you feel it? You are free as long as you follow the rights given to you by Islam! Wonderful! Everyone everywhere should be so free! Yes even Christians can exist and Yazidis, and Mandean Sabeans I'm sure they are all thrilled!!!
Can freedom truly exist under the South African or Iraqi constitutions? Not really, not like it can exist under the United States Constitution. Because the United States Constitution is founded on the Christian concept of our rights coming from our creator. The Christian concept of freedom and tolerance cannot exist under those two other constitutions. The individual has the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. These things are up to the individual to provide for himself without the government getting in the way. It is the governments job to see that the individual does not infringe on another individual's rights and that's all. It does not matter if you reject the source of your rights they are yours regardless.
Under Islamic law you are not permitted to change your religion and that puts the kabash on a lot of things. You can't say I don't believe in Allah and you can't say Mohammad was a pervert.
Under Christian law you can say whatever you want to say about Jesus and reject God and do what ever you want to the bible, like I said before you can reject the source of your rights and still have them. That is freedom my friend and it can only come about through the tolerance of Christianity.
You can't build a free society on humanistic principles that can change by conscientious. You can't have a free society based on man made religion. So I'm afraid that unless there is massive Christian conversion the whole middle east will continue to collapse. I just hope we don't go down with them. Please Ms Ginsberg, tell me you didn't mean that the South African constitution would be good for us US! As long as I am alive I will never give up the giver of my rights.
One would think that Supremes like Ginsberg, Sotomayor and Kagan were chosen by mistake, that a list of the most qualified justices was somehow flipped upside down and that the very worst possible candidates mistakenly got placed at the top. There is no good reason such anti-Constitution nincompoops could have ever made it to the very top court in the land other than gross error or deliberate hostility to the Constitution and the Law.
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